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Sword of the Kings · Nov 01, 2009, 07:34 PM // 19:34

At the moment I'm using a Logitech VX that I've had nearly since they came out, seems like it's wearing out on me so I'm looking for a new mouse.

I need some suggestions for the best mouse out there, money is no object here.

(currently looking at a razr mamba)

dansamy · Nov 01, 2009, 07:38 PM // 19:38

I happen to adore my Razer Lachesis. But, I don't use oodles of buttons.

Lord Sojar · Nov 01, 2009, 07:49 PM // 19:49

It really depends on your hand and your personal preference.

I have huge hands (by huge I mean I can easily palm a full size NBA sanctioned ball), so most mice are too small for me.

As a result, I use the Microsoft Sidewinder, and adore it. It is a really big mouse, and is so great for people with big hands. I love the button layout, and it isn't overly complex like some mice.

I had a G9 for a while, but it was entirely too small, so I trashed it.

rb.widow · Nov 01, 2009, 07:54 PM // 19:54

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Originally Posted by Sword of the Kings

At the moment I'm using a Logitech VX that I've had nearly since they came out, seems like it's wearing out on me so I'm looking for a new mouse.

I need some suggestions for the best mouse out there, money is no object here.

(currently looking at a razr mamba)

I got the Razer Mamba, 4000 dpi of pure perfection you can customize the mouse in 100dpi movements, it glides like a feather, and its a cordless mouse, but you can plug it in with a USB cord and make it corded, there design on this was flawless, when its plugged in you wouldnt know it was a wireless mouse.

This is a very high precision gaming mouse, if you only play MMO's i wouldnt recommend it, if you are into FPS etc, its the mouse to have.

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dansamy I happen to adore my Razer Lachesis. But, I don't use oodles of buttons.

I strongly suggest if you are into FPS gaming to stay away from the Lachesis at all costs, its floating issue has never been fixed, ( due to a design flaw ) and results in horrible things happening when precision is needed, i have seen no end of complaints about this mouse.

Aera · Nov 01, 2009, 10:19 PM // 22:19

Still like my good old Logitec G5. Like most gaming mice these days it has a customizable weight thingy inside for the perfect weight feel

Sword of the Kings · Nov 01, 2009, 11:35 PM // 23:35

I have looked around at microsoft and logitech products, and none of their products really appeal to me. Can't say I like the overall shape of any of their products.(Only from pictures though, I would really have to hold them to make a real judgement. Maybe I'll go to the store tomorrow and see what they've got :P )

I think I will probably go with the razer mamba, unless I find something that really jumps out at me. Overall shape of the mamba seems really nice, the wired/wireless option, rechargeable battery = win. I hate having to run and get batteries when my current mouse dies and I'm in the middle of a game. The customizable DPI setting seems like an awesome feature, never had a mouse that could do that, so we'll have to see if i can get used to it.

Going by what Rahja said, the razer site makes it out to be fairly large, and my hands are fairly large, not ginormous though. (base of the palm - tip of middle finger, fully extended = ~20cm.) My current mouse is 11cm and the mamba is 12.8cm. Current mouse fits nicely in my hand but could be a little bigger, so seems like mamba = win for size.

Thanks for the input guys! But if there's any downsides to the mamba, or anything you think is better, further suggestions are appreciated!

moriz · Nov 02, 2009, 12:36 AM // 00:36

if you want something that's almost the exact same as the mamba, but don't want to pay full price for one, try the refreshed deathadder. the mamba actually shares the same chassis as the deathadder, but with additional features added. the new refreshed deathadder is basically a mamba without the two extra buttons for the index finger, and without the wireless. for everything else, they are identical.

but it all boils down to personal preference. i like my deathadder, because it quite literally feels like an extension of my hand, and no other mice can do that (except for the mamba, simply because they use the same chassis). the only way to find out what works for you, is to try as many of them as you can.

headlesshobbs · Nov 02, 2009, 03:07 AM // 03:07

Has anyone looked at the mouse being promoted for WoW lately? It has more then it's fair share of programmable buttons, but sadly its corded and being under the WoW lable doesn't make it as attractive.

moriz · Nov 02, 2009, 05:09 AM // 05:09

you mean the Razer Naga? i'm not too sure about that one, since it looks kinda gimmicky. i find it hard to imagine that anyone having the manual dexterity to hit all 12 hotkeys with any real accuracy and speed... with their thumb.

Keyez · Nov 02, 2009, 05:28 AM // 05:28

I use the Razer Deathadder. The customisable features on all Razer products are excellent, both with binds and settings. I've had it for over a year, very reliable, would recommend.

Ec]-[oMaN · Nov 07, 2009, 05:22 PM // 17:22

The thing that has always baffled me in the last 6+ years is mice in general and when you read reviews the end result is, how could this be worth 70-110$ with taxes. Also I'm still shocked at the lack of wireless mice available, ever since I went with one 5+ years ago seeing all these mice with cords is a real piss off.

This sparked my interest for 50$ or less.

Cooler Master Storm Sentinel Advance Gaming Mouse

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...se-review.html

IronSheik · Nov 07, 2009, 05:28 PM // 17:28

I use a Razer Copperhead I used for wolfenstein about 3- years ago.

Press_ALT_F4 · Nov 07, 2009, 05:36 PM // 17:36

Razer Deathadder for me. nice design, great performance, and for $30 at Frys, you can't go wrong.

moriz · Nov 07, 2009, 06:01 PM // 18:01

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Originally Posted by Ec]-[oMaN

The thing that has always baffled me in the last 6+ years is mice in general and when you read reviews the end result is, how could this be worth 70-110$ with taxes. Also I'm still shocked at the lack of wireless mice available, ever since I went with one 5+ years ago seeing all these mice with cords is a real piss off.

This sparked my interest for 50$ or less.

Cooler Master Storm Sentinel Advance Gaming Mouse

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...se-review.html

wireless mice have higher latencies, which is generally a no-no in gaming grade equipment. and really, what's wrong with corded mice? typically you are gonna be sitting down in front of your desk anyways, so it really doesn't matter if the mouse is cordless or not.

N E D M · Nov 07, 2009, 06:37 PM // 18:37

corded is ftw if you hate batteries dying on ya at the WORST POSSIBLE TIME . . . lol
also dpi count is important (i think its called dpi)

Rushin Roulette · Nov 07, 2009, 08:03 PM // 20:03

Id advise you to go to your local computer retail shop (the bigger the better) and try each mouse for your hand. Then go online and buy the most comfortable one with the right features you need.

I presonally stuck to the Razer Copperhead, because it felt most natural to me. When my hand was holding it and all the buttons including the thumb buttons (programmed to target switching) are easy to reach. The side buttons on the right are not very accessable but thats just an advantage because I dont want to mistakenly change the DPI at a bad time

Burst Cancel · Nov 10, 2009, 06:05 AM // 06:05

I own the Lachesis, Mamba, and G500.

I can't recommend the Mamba in good faith. Aside from the price being impossible to justify, the scroll wheel develops a very irritating squeak (support said that this was "normal"), the index finger buttons are small and level with the left click button and therefore hard to press quickly and accurately, the weight is not adjustable (unless you count removing the battery), and switching between wired/wireless can require some fiddling (to be fair, problems were uncommon). The firmware updater also uses unsigned drivers, which bothers some people and makes installation more annoying than it should be.

The Lachesis is left/right symmetrical, so it's a great option for left-handed mousers. The body is long and flat, which makes it hard to hold if you like to palm, but feels great if you mouse with your fingertips. The side buttons on the pinky side are basically worthless, and can get in the way of a firm grip on the mouse.

The G500 is my recommendation (especially at its price point), with two caveats: 1) Logitech's Setpoint software is complete shit, and 2) the mouse emits a soft but high-pitched whine that you may or may not be able to hear; I've read that this is common to several Logitech gaming mice. I can't hear the whine unless I put my ear right next to the mouse, so it doesn't particularly bother me. The mouse is extremely comfortable for both palm and claw grips, and has adjustable weight. The index finger buttons are slightly smaller than the Mamba's but they're raised and easy to hit by feel. There are three side buttons, which are worse than those on either of the Razer mice, being both smaller and closer together, with a bit more resistance. On the other hand, the wheel is superior, having both tilt and free-scroll functionality. The max DPI is also slightly higher at 5700.

Also, for people who know why laser position matters: the laser is about dead-center on the Mamba, near the rear on the Lachesis, and at the front on the G500.

Elder III · Nov 10, 2009, 03:27 PM // 15:27

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Going by what Rahja said, the razer site makes it out to be fairly large, and my hands are fairly large, not ginormous though. (base of the palm - tip of middle finger, fully extended = ~20cm.) My current mouse is 11cm and the mamba is 12.8cm. Current mouse fits nicely in my hand but could be a little bigger, so seems like mamba = win for size.

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You may have already bought your mouse by now, and the mamba is a nice mouse, but if you want a cheaper solution you should consider the Logitech MX518 it has 3 phase adjustable DPI up to 2200, 8 programable buttons, a wonderful contour that fits my hand like a glove and is very smooth and responsive. The battered, "bullet hole" finish is pretty sweet too.

It's wired, which is a plus for me but may not be for others (although with few exceptions wired mice ARE more responsive for gaming). For reference sake it's 12.7cm long, my hands are 20.3cm long, and it can be found online in the USA for as little as $30-35. I love it and have had zero compatibility issues in XP, Vista, or Win 7.

my 2 cents.......

prince percilitor · Nov 11, 2009, 02:06 AM // 02:06

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Originally Posted by moriz

you mean the Razer Naga? i'm not too sure about that one, since it looks kinda gimmicky. i find it hard to imagine that anyone having the manual dexterity to hit all 12 hotkeys with any real accuracy and speed... with their thumb.

just food for thought. while not exactly the same, it'd be kind of similar

headlesshobbs · Nov 11, 2009, 04:43 AM // 04:43

I couldn't even use that for a proper d-pad if I wanted to play games on that thing. I'm not a "righty" at that sort of thing.